A number of encounters with John as well as a family crisis lead Jake to a new understanding of what his life should be like: one filled with faith bolstered by a steady, close Facing his own disappointment with Christianity, Jake must forsake the habits that have made his faith rote and rediscover the love that captured his heart when he first believed. As John tells Jake, "There is nothing the Father desires for you more than that you fall squarely in the lap of his love and never move from that place for the rest of your life. Jump to.
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Privacy Terms. Discipleship always comes before community. Mar 24, Caleb Gibson rated it did not like it. This should be titled, "So you don't want to go to church anymore Good neither do we! If you read that last 2 chapters you will understand why they say some of the things they do Why one star?
I didn't like the fiction writing Now I am no fiction reader, but I could not figure out who was who. It never really said, "John said, Jake replied.
The book is against church And let us not neglect our meeting together, as some people do, but encourage one another, especially now that the day of his return is drawing near" Hebrews This book, in the last chapters, John one of the main characters says ultimately that you don't need to meet up regularly This totally contradicts Hebrews Got this book based on good Amazon reviews.
It drew me in but then it became increasingly annoying. This is the second fiction book I've read about a disillusioned Christian who's getting advice from a mysterious character who seems to know everything. I'd strongly prefer an honest memoir about the authors' real life experiences. This is just really bad fiction. Not believable. Interesting book about how church can interfere with our relationship with Jesus. Thought-provoking read that I would recommend to anyone.
My only problem with it was that initially it seemed to blame all our spiritual problems on the organized church, which takes no responsibility on ourselves. Otherwise, had good insight into what churches often do wrong. Apr 03, Cheryl rated it it was amazing. Very challenging to the status quo of church life.
Many great one line zingers, but all not completely Biblical. For example, on page 41 they write, "Do you remember what Stephen said right before they picked up stones to kill him? Also, on page 56, the books gives the impression Very challenging to the status quo of church life. Also, on page 56, the books gives the impression that there are no Bible verses for accountability. While the word or phrase, "hold each other accountable " is not in the Bible, the concept still is.
Heb exhort one another, James confess sins to one another, Matt , Prov , Eph I think perhaps the point they were trying to make is to be sure we are exhorting and holding accountable to the things that God has asked us for and not are man-made religious rules. So while this book is excellent, it does need to be read with a prayer of discernment so that you can effectively chew on the meat and spit out the bones.
I I'm told this book is very popular in the home Church movement but I do not get that impression at all. It is just as biting and cutting to a improper home church as it is to the institution of church. It is trying to get us to realize location does not matter.
The body of the church is relationships not structure or format- and the most important relationship is the individual with Jesus himself not relationships with each other!! I think the best way to sum it up is a paragraph towards the end on page "You think of gatherings as meetings to go to and trying to craft the perfect format that will guarantee results that no meeting can guarantee. But you don't see yet that Jesus is always Gathering his flock to himself.
People from all over the world are finding their hunger for him eclipsing their hunger for anything else and that every substitute they try only adds to their restlessness. As they keep their eye on him, not only do they grow closer to him with each passing day, but they will find themselves alongside others who are headed that way too. Geese fly together not because they are obligated to do so, but because it lightens their load and lifts them closer to their goal.
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This book came highly recommended by a couple of people. One of the authors had helped to write The Shack and I could see simialarities. It was written as a story, which I wasn't expecting, but very effective. There were a couple comments that I felt were not Biblical as in the Shack , such as "We can't love what we fear. It was 2 things like this that I struggled with, not just things that were opinions, but not Biblical.
The rest of the book was inspirational, not causing division or church bashing but pointing us toward the Father and full of wisdom. Jul 18, Kelly Boggs rated it it was amazing Shelves: personal-growth. Mar 26, Donna Craig rated it really liked it. I really liked this book. My husband and I read it together. We both enjoyed it, finishing it much faster than we normally finish the books we read together. We were challenged to think and rethink the way we think about church and Christian living.
The book is formatted like a story, and the points are made in conversations between the characters. I recommend it. This book explains my personal views of Christianity to a "tee". I loved every page of it and recommend it to everyone. Sep 14, Pat rated it really liked it Recommends it for: Anyone disillusioned or fed up with church and particularly church leaders.
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Great book and engagingly written. By another writer, the plot would have seem contrived, but by these two I felt drawn into the story.
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About halfway or a little more than halfway, I was really drinking it all in and couldn't wait to get to the end to see how everything worked out. Here are some of the passages that spoke to me my notes in italics : "It seems like everyone I've talked to lately is running on empty--even Christians I've known for decades. I met with one of our elders yesterday, w Great book and engagingly written.
I met with one of our elders yesterday, who I've always thought to be a rock.
Davis is pretty disillusioned with it all these days. He told me he often wonders if God is even real or if this whole Christianity thing is just a crock. What did you tell him? I tried to encourage him. I told him we couldn't live by sight but by faith; that he's done a lot of wonderful things for God and he'll honor that someday. We just have to be faithful and not trust our own feelings. So you told him he didn't have the right to his feelings, or his questions? No, that's not what I said. Are you sure?
The question was gentle, not accusing. Taken back, I replayed what I had said to him. Understand something, Jake, this life in Jesus is a real thing. It's not a game. When people sense something's wrong, you know what I've discovered? Something usually is. It doesn't matter what leads people away from God's life. Anything will do, as long as it preoccupies them enough to serve as an adequate substitute for the real thing. It's easier to see the problem when the standard is circumcision in Ephesus than when it is Sunday morning attendance in Kingston.
But both can lrad to the same thing: bored and disillusioned believers, no longer embracing Father's life. But others just as destructive are ignored, such as gossip, arrogance, or condemning others. Sometimes these are even rewarded, because we can use those to get people to act the way we want them to.
Even our sense of sin was selective. I could see it now.
I knew people who were able to exploit the system for their own gain, even if it hurt others.